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#1 forst

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:29 PM

The bits and pieces of promos I have seen make this episode look darn good.

EDIT: Looks like NBC changed the title of this episode from "String Theory" to "Five Years Gone." So there.

Edited by cmdr_forst, 30 April 2007 - 08:09 PM.

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And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:57 PM

I thought you dont watch promos.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:09 PM

As a general rule I do not. But it was hard to keep from seeing a few seconds and they made it very obvious what the episode was going to be about.
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:34 PM

That was freakin' amazing. Definitely among the top hours of television I've seen all year.

I would say I'm mad about the off-screen-edness of the Sylar/Peter fight. But they're both such ridiculously cheap characters that it'd be a draw anyway.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:43 PM

I am so confused right now about how the timelines fit together that I have to stop thinking about it or my head just might explode. Ooow. I was shocked at the presidential reveal -- shocked, I tell you! But the best part of this episode? Totally Stana Hatic/Hana Gitelman's accent.
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:55 PM

Yeah, the reveal was intense. Something I didn't really consider for whatever reason. Especially odd since they were basically screaming it the whole episode.

And I think they don't follow the "butterfly effect" rule. But it begs the question:

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:19 PM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but how did Hiro travel to an alternate future?


And Peter w/ Nikki? That's an interesting pairing. I hope they reveal more...what happened to micah etc!

did Sylar die when he blew up etc, I guess its not very important since it's an alternate future and not a real future.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:31 PM

Peter saves FutureHiro and Ando!

Yes!
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:51 PM

If Claire didn't die, how did Sylar regenerate when Hiro stabbed him?


It appears that Claire died in the future. If Sylar had killed Hiro at some point , perhaps he traveled back in time with those powers?
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 12:03 AM

Wow what an ending, and I cant wait for next week. Damn. This last batch of episodes has been fan-freaking-tastic!!!
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:35 AM

Here is my attempt at a timeline for the series thus far:

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And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:47 AM

....and how do they stop Peter from exploding? :(
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:29 AM

But the best part of this episode? Totally Stana Hatic/Hana Gitelman's accent.


I don't even know who that is.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:43 AM

....and how do they stop Peter from exploding? :(


That is the $64,000 question, my friend!

But the best part of this episode? Totally Stana Hatic/Hana Gitelman's accent.


I don't even know who that is.


She was the woman helping Mr. Bennett with the family near the start of the episode. She was shot in the forehead by Matt or one of his goons; Mr. Bennett saw her body moments before Matt killed him.
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And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:04 AM


....and how do they stop Peter from exploding? :(


That is the $64,000 question, my friend!

But the best part of this episode? Totally Stana Hatic/Hana Gitelman's accent.


I don't even know who that is.


She was the woman helping Mr. Bennett with the family near the start of the episode. She was shot in the forehead by Matt or one of his goons; Mr. Bennett saw her body moments before Matt killed him.



Do we know that Matt killed Mr. Bennett?
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:25 AM

I thought it was fairly obvious. Did we hear a gunshot or not after Matt pulled Claire's location from poor Mr. Bennet's mind?
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And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:29 AM

I thought it was fairly obvious. Did we hear a gunshot or not after Matt pulled Claire's location from poor Mr. Bennet's mind?


I don't remember/didn't notice that.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:39 AM

Yeah, a good deal of the main cast ended up dying, whether on-screen or hinted. Bennett, Claire, Nathan, Ando, Micah, Nikki's husband (whose name escapes me), Hiro, the Haitian, and probably Parkman (since that's a lot of radiation in a small area).

But I still don't know how Sylar survived if he didn't have Claire's power.

Can someone upload/transcribe the conversation between Sylar and Claire? The answer might be in there, but I didn't pay as much attention until I knew what exactly was going on.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:48 AM

Nikki's husband (whose name escapes me)


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Can someone upload/transcribe the conversation between Sylar and Claire? The answer might be in there, but I didn't pay as much attention until I knew what exactly was going on.


Here you are:

Nathan: "I thought you were dead. You have no idea how important you are to me, Claire."
Claire: "I'm not important. I'm just a waitress."
Nathan: "We both know that isn't true."
[he moves to hug her; she pushes him away]
Claire: "You made everyone afraid of us."
Nathan: "I made everyone aware of us. Fear is just a natural response. You can't blame them, really. We're more powerful than they are. More important. We're special."
Claire: "Who are you to decide who's special and who's not?"
[she begins to walk away; he stops her and she turns back to face him]
Nathan: "I'm the leader of the free world. For all I know I'm the most special person there is. Lord knows I've found enough power. Met enough special people. Like this girl named Candice who allowed me to become President. But I'm done. I just want to eliminate the competition, I don't need any more power. Especially not after you."
[Claire turns to walk away again but is stopped; Nathan raises his hand. We see blood dripping down Claire's face.]
Claire (a whisper): "Sylar."
[Nathan morphs into Sylar]
Sylar: "I've waited a long time for this."
I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 11:57 AM

If everyone remembers from the last epsiode when Sylar was painting the future he was painting himself as President.

My one pet peeve from this episode is if Peter has Claire's ability to heal why does he have a nasty scar across his face.

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 12:00 PM

OK, well than answers one question for me. Why Sylar suddenly wants to get rid of all of the "special" people as opposed to taking any more powers. He simply has enough power.

But I'm curious when Sylar got to Nathan. Was it before or after the bomb. Or, better yet, before or after the Presidency?

And why didn't he devote more power to getting rid of Peter? Peter's obviously his most powerful competition....why not take him out first? Unless Sylar knows what I'm 99% sure of....that Sylar/Peter is a no-win battle.

If everyone remembers from the last epsiode when Sylar was painting the future he was painting himself as President.


Does anyone have a screenshot of that? For some reason, I thought it was just a zombified version of Nathan. As if Sylar didn't have full control of Isaac's power or something. But that makes much more sense.

My one pet peeve from this episode is if Peter has Claire's ability to heal why does he have a nasty scar across his face.


I thought the exact same thing. I have no idea either.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:06 PM

The only thing I can think of is that regenerating after he exploded somehow "burnt out" his copy of Claire's ability to heal.

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Who's to say Hiro ever stabbed him in the timeline where he becomes President?


I thought it was fairly obvious. Did we hear a gunshot or not after Matt pulled Claire's location from poor Mr. Bennet's mind?


I don't remember/didn't notice that.

The scene change was accompanied by the sound of a gunshot, so we're obviously meant to assume Bennet was killed. Whether he actually was or not really doesn't matter.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:06 PM

cmdr_forst's review of "Five Years Gone" is now online. :yeah:

Edited by Diesel Micky Dolenz, 01 May 2007 - 02:07 PM.

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:09 PM


If everyone remembers from the last epsiode when Sylar was painting the future he was painting himself as President.


Does anyone have a screenshot of that? For some reason, I thought it was just a zombified version of Nathan. As if Sylar didn't have full control of Isaac's power or something. But that makes much more sense.


Here you go, taken from NBC.com's video stream of the episode:
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My one pet peeve from this episode is if Peter has Claire's ability to heal why does he have a nasty scar across his face.


I thought the exact same thing. I have no idea either.


Folks at Television Without Pity are theorizing that Peter might have kept the scar as a reminder of what he has been through.
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And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by,
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song, and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking
-John Masefield

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:27 PM


If everyone remembers from the last epsiode when Sylar was painting the future he was painting himself as President.


Does anyone have a screenshot of that? For some reason, I thought it was just a zombified version of Nathan. As if Sylar didn't have full control of Isaac's power or something. But that makes much more sense.


Here you go, though it's not obvious to me whether it's supposed to be Sylar or Nathan in the picture.

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EDIT: And of course Karma has beaten me to it.

Edited by Diesel Micky Dolenz, 01 May 2007 - 02:28 PM.

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