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  2. Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Discussion (SPOILERS)

    Ooooo I miss the old formatting... Here's the cleaned up version: There are some serious plotholes in Episode 2. So the Klingons don't bother helping their stranded brethen for 6 months?! And using the stealth technology on all their ships? Starfleet doesn't come back to capture this stranded Klingon ship and get the stealth tech themselves? The Shenzhou is left abandoned, no attempt to destroy vital Starfleet technology? I can see why some fans are disappointed. This. Also, I'm pretty sure Tyler is a spy. At least, a Klingon altered to look human. It's been done before. And I'm pretty sure he's Voq in disguise. Quote from screenrant: Voq is the albino Klingon who was torchbearer and devoted folllower of the late T’Kuvma (Chris Obi). Following the Battle of the Binary Stars, Voq and L’Rell were stranded with no functioning warp drive and no food. We even learned the gruesome truth that to fend off starvation, they ate the corpse of Captain Georgiou (Michelle Yeoh). When Kol of House Kor (Kenneth Mitchell) incited mutiny and took command of Voq’s followers, Kol abandoned Voq to die on board the wreck of the U.S.S. Shenzhou. However, L’Rell, who has a romantic relationship with Voq, beamed herself on board the Shenzhou to share Voq’s fate. When last we saw Voq, he was going through the still-functioning ship’s log of the Shenzhou and learning all he could about Starfleet and the Federation. Voq’s disapperance and L’Rell’s sudden reappearance as commander of a prison ship opens up a slew of questions. How did they escape the Shenzhou? How did L’Rell assume command of the prison ship? And how did L’Rell learn to speak English as well as she did when she tortured Lorca? All of this very easily and credibly leads to the possibility that Ash Tyler is actually Voq in disguise. L’Rell told Lorca she was descended from spies – she is from House Mo’Kai, known as “watchers,” “deceivers,” and “weavers of lies” among the Klingon Empire. It’s very possible Lt. Ash Tyler is Voq surgically altered to appear human and sent as a Klingon infiltrator to the Discovery. The capture of Lorca was likely no accident nor a stroke of luck – he was targeted so Voq-as-Tyler could gain his trust by helping him escape the Klingon ship and join him on board the Discovery. While it’s unclear just how long L’Rell and Voq were trapped on board the Shenzhou and when in the course of the seven months between “Battle at the Binary Stars” and “Choose Your Pain” they could have escaped the Shenzhou and surgically altered Voq to pass for human, with L’Rell’s background as a spy, they had the necessary intel from the Shenzhou to implement such a plan. So yeah, I'm pretty sure this explains it. IF they have come up with something else, then this would have been a wasted opportunity. According to iMDb, Ash Tyler is listed all the way to at least episode 15. So unless this is to throw everyone off, he'll be around for a while. Also, another tidbit, it's possible that the same actor who plays Ash Tyler is the same guy who plays Voq. When you Google Voq, all you can find is some actor named Javid Iqbal. When you find his page, it specifically says at the bottom "Trivia: He is not the Canadian actor that played the role of "Voq" in the CBS Star Trek: Discovery (2017) TV series." Also, leading up to the launch of Discovery, no casting announcement was made about Voq. AND, Memory Alpha says: "Originally, CBS announced in December 2016 that T'Kuvma's protégé, then named "Kol", was to be played by Shazad Latif. In the final version of the series, Latif went on to portray Ash Tyler and T'Kuvma's protégé was renamed "Voq", while the name Kol was given to a leader of a rival Great House." Could it be that CBS messed up the announcement, and redid everything to try to throw everyone off? Now I know this show went through A LOT of rewrites, edits, etc. But it appears to me that there is a clandestine attempt to try to keep this stuff quiet in an attempt to surprise viewers.
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  4. I personally had no problems with leaving Mudd behind, considering the last two episodes we've seen him in Star Trek (three if we count the animated series) that guy is practically asking to be shot out of an airlock. Quite honestly I was in full support of Lorca leaving him behind, though it does answer the question why Mudd was so desprate to try and run away from the Enterprise back in the original series. He's met Captain Lorca. I honestly am taking quite a liking to Captain Lorca, yeah he's clearly a dubious character, but I have so far no doubt about his loyalities, they are clearly to me aligned with the Federation. Although we hear him confess having blown up his ship to spare his crew the torture of klingon imprisonment, I don't think we have the full story here and I can't wait to see more of it. I'm once again unable to predict what the show is going to do, I had all kinds of ideas what was going to happen next and they were all blown out of the water once more. So i'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride. Loved this episode, it's seriously shaping up to be at least my third favorite series after the original and next generation.
  5. Well Episode 5 now. So the plot moves forward and we get more focus on other characters other then Burnham. I can't believe Starfleet would just let Lorca travel on his own unprotected in a shuttle?! And when he left Mudd behind, it didn't feel right to me. Afterwards I justified it as that Lorca was thinking, Mudd couldn't be trusted. For all we know Mudd feels the Federation will lose this war so might as well make nice early with your new masters. Mudd could have sabotaged their escape. Tyler... at first I felt he was kosher. Then realised maybe their escape was a little convenient. He maybe a spy. Wouldn't Lorca who has studied the art of war, be at least be wary of such a thing. Or maybe he does suspect and will feed Tyler misinformation. Or I am thinking in circles. Without more Tardigrades, how is Starfleet gonna make this work? If they get more of them, then they risk killing them. Of course it's either the Federation or the Tardigrades. What if the Tardigrades are sentient and can communicate? That would really put the Federation into a dilemma, cos it's enslaving another species. But at the moment they can conveniently treat them as animals. Surely using the DNA transfer technique means the problem is solved. As far as we can tell, it's having to stab those things into people that hurts them? Or is it also a brain depletion issue too? But saying that, I rather risk death like this, then losing the war and been tortured by Klingons. And I think people would volunteer in this way to help decisively end the war. Which should mean Starfleet is guaranteed to win. So Lorca destroyed his own ship to 'save' his crew. It still doesn't explain how he became this person who would do such a thing in the first place. So there's obviously more backstory how he become this hardened person in the first place. Just like with Burnham the Klingon killing her parents is one factor she's gung-ho against them. So what is Lorca's story? The Discovery jumping is still a very cool effect. And the tardigrade jumping also looks cool! The end scene was creepy to say the least. EDIT: There are some serious plotholes in Episode 2. So the Klingons don't bother helping their stranded brethen for 6 months?! And using the stealth technology on all their ships? Starfleet doesn't come back to capture this stranded Klingon ship and get the stealth tech themselves? The Shenzhou is left abandoned, no attempt to destroy vital Starfleet technology? I can see why some fans are disappointed.
  6. Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Discussion (SPOILERS)

    Tonight's was the best one yet. Except for the F bombs.
  7. Star Trek: Discovery

    I honestly can't say, because I didn't really notice any odd camera angels and that much lensflare in the premiere, I tend not to pay much heed to things like that. I've personally had no problems with the visuals, sorry I can't be of more help.
  8. Star Trek: Discovery

    Question for those who are watching Season 1: Has the show toned down the lens flare and odd camera angles that annoyed me so much during the series premiere on CBS?
  9. 2017 Movie Megathread

    To be fair, "no plot, just explosions," would still be an improvement over Batman v. Superman.
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  11. How was it impossible to counter Shinzon's cloaking device?

    I agree with DMD. As I understood it the grid employed by the Federation during the Klingon Civil War used active tachyon beams transmitted between different starships or sentry posts to create a tachyon field. The net thus was literally a “stationary” net which "caught" objects moving through. It thus would not work with a single starship moving through space. In effect, you could compare it to the SOSUS line used by NATO in the GIUK gap to search and track Russian submarines. But all this is academic because if I recall correctly in Nemesis it was stated that the Scimitar used a newly developed cloaking technology which produced no tachyon emissions at all, making tachyon grids or scans obsolete with regards to combatting the use of cloaking devices.
  12. 2017 Movie Megathread

    Trailers for Justice League and Star Wars: The Last Jedi were released recently: Justice League looks awful. No plot, just explosions. The trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi is confusing. I'm entirely spoiler-free, so I have no idea what the movie is about. The trailer doesn't do much to explain what's going on.
  13. Dammit Discovery, everytime I think I know what direction you're going, you take a sharp turn in the other direction. I seriously didn't expect them to immediately use the Tardigrate like that, I was almost convinced it would be this big controversial surprise that Captain Lorca was keeping, but nope almost immediatly he's going "hey I'm keeping the beast you met on the Glenn, find out how it kills." I think I'm just going to stop trying to predict, clearly this show is just going to continue to surprise me at every turn. Also that chief of security, what an idiot. I honestly couldn't even feel sad at her death. I mean she knew what that creature was capable of, saw it in action, ignored the so far only expert on it who quite clearly said "we don't know if sedatives work on that thing" and I don't care if it was Burnham who said it, opens the containment field to try and cut a claw from it. What a prime specimen for the Darwin Awards, I think we have a winner. Sheesh. The Klingon b-story, I was not really as surprised by it. I'm seeing already some snivel of the Klingons from the TOS era there. It will be interesting to see how that continues to develope.
  14. AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) Shutting Down December 15

    Indeed. I "met" a good number of people online that way. Haven't signed on in years. In fact, I'm not 100% certain of what my AIM handle was or what e-mail address I used, though it must have been an AOL account. I still haven't been able to convince my mother that she doesn't need to log in to AOL to use the Internet.
  15. How was it impossible to counter Shinzon's cloaking device?

    Ummm... because reasons? Not having watched Nemesis or the episode where Geordi devised the tachyon net thingy for many years, I really can't say, but I'll throw out some I'll-informed ideas. First, as time marches on, technology does, too. Perhaps the Romulans have developed some way to evade detection even by those means in the years between the series and Nemesis. Secondly, a net implies a static structure, waiting for something to attempt to pass through it. The Enterprise, IIRC, was running for its life. Any net cast into space would quickly be left behind. Again, I don't even remotely recall the episode where the cloak-defeating technology was developed. I don't even recall it being done, so perhaps I'm mischaracterizing how it works, but that's my stab at it.
  16. I haven't watched Nemesis in a long time so my memory isn't 100% there.. but I got to thinking about this earlier. Exactly how is it impossible to detect Shinzon's cloak? By the middle to end of the 24th century, Starfleet had the way of using the tachyon particles which basically created a net (Geordi's idea BTW). Cloaked or not, any object passing through those particles would cause interference or ripples or movement inside the net. Doesn't matter how much you bend light to become invisible, you still have mass and you still are passing through an object. Only other way I could think of to counter that effect would to have the phase cloak that Pressman was working on while on the USS Pegasus. There was no evidence his cloak had that ability. Obviously, the main difficulty would be to organize enough ships to place in strategic locations in order to launch effective nets. Or, use tachyon emitters in strategic areas but those could be popped off by Shinzon. Now, if you could find and detect Shinzon, you still had the problem of disabling or destroying The Scimitar. It took the 1701-E everything she could muster, and even with the help of the new Romulan warbirds, still couldn't disable The Scimitar without ramming it. And even THEN, it still had the ability to use it's primary weapon. It would take DS9 sized fleets to take The Scimitar out. Or maybe the USS Defiant in close quarters combat like what was seen in "Shattered Mirror."
  17. AOL Instant Messenger (AIM) Shutting Down December 15

    Oh, the memories
  18. The Son's of Mogh. the ending bothers me.

    I don't remember much about this episode but I know I didn't like how Kurn ended up being wiped of his memories. It felt liked a weak ending for both the character and the episode.
  19. Remember AOL Instant Messenger (aka AIM)? It's shutting down in December. read more at The New York Times. It's a little sad to think about. Bittersweet, I suppose. I spent so much time on AIM in middle school and high school. Even during college and a few years after that. I was still using it around 2010/2011. Life on the Internet was easier back then.
  20. The Son's of Mogh. the ending bothers me.

    I do get what both of you are saying, but honestly it just makes me dislike the ending that much more. It feels cheap and more like they just chickened out of letting Kurn die, which I would have preferred over what we got instead. But that's just me.
  21. Right, Episode 3 watched! I am puzzled why Burnham is considered the person, who started the war with the Klingons. The Klingons were spoiling for war anyway, even if the Shenzhou hadn't come onto the scene. But I suppose it's easier for the Federation to blame someone for starting a war, then to acknowledge there are species out there who don't want to join their literal congregation. Shades of Michael Eddington. I am not sure that Section 31s involvement is necessary to explain the Discovery. They are at war, aren't they? Plus a secret organisation that isn't meant to exist, cannot show itself out in the open. I think Star Trek Discovery is just called Star Trek in order to use that established 'universe' to tell the story the writers want. Which is just to create a good drama show with conflict and interesting character relationships. It definitely isn't our vanilla trek. But I think I can live with this. The characters all have distinct personalities and their interactions are interesting. In fact, I dare say, this series is similar to Babylon 5! I read this article with Jason Isaacs, that reveals more: https://trekmovie.com/2017/10/02/jason-isaacs-explains-lorcas-study-and-whats-up-with-landry-from-star-trek-discovery-ep-3/ In it, he says the Federation is losing the war. Hence why Lorca has been giving such scope to do what it takes to win. I was thinking that the Federation doesn't really need special weapons like the ones Discovery is developing, but could win the war using better conventional weapons. But I suppose the writers want the Federation up aganst the war to be able to tell the story they want full of conflict. Also the Federation been peaceful, it would be difficult politically and socially to change the majority of Starfleet into virtually a battlefleet. Hence if just using a 'secret weapon' can end the war cleanly and quickly, they rather do that. Jason Isaacs also says this: I think in this tradition of Star Trek captains and these alpha males who rise to the top, he’s got a taste for the good life and he’s got an eye for his female officers. I don’t know that that’s going to work with Burnham very well, frankly. She doesn’t look like she’s up for that kind of thing, but him and Landry certainly have a relationship that goes beyond, I would think, work. But that’s how I played my scenes with all the women on board, whether or not the writers were on board with that. By the way, that’s my tribute to Shatner. I always thought, as much as the original series was born out of the civil rights struggle and the birth of feminism, some of that was [infused with a feeling of] James Bond. It was clear Captain Kirk had his way with any member of the micro-skirted crew members he wanted, so that was my subtle tribute to him. I’m playing that, even if it’s inside my head. (Laughs.) I suppose this is partially, his take on it and also what the original series protrayed. TOS was influenced by the sexual liberation and free love ideals during the 60s. But I can't really believe Captain Kirk would go around bedding any female member of the crew he wanted. Kirk struck me as a person who was professional and respected women, both as colleagues and romantic partners. But I cannot believe he was a lech! But saying that, when people spend years on a starship, they have needs and will establish friendships and relationships. Although for the Discovery storyline, I think they want to put in some sexy stuff like in Enterprise to ramp up the drama and increase viewing figures. EDIT: Also, I do wonder if Lorca's fortune cookies actually have messages inside them?!
  22. 30th Anniversary of Star Trek: The Next Generation

    I was in the 2nd grade of elementary school. I remember liking it and missing the TOS characters. I was wanting Kirk to show up and kill Worf because he was a Klingon.. lol. I was a kid afterall
  23. Voyager theme song (The original long version!)

    That would have been good to use in "Catetaker."
  24. Star Trek: Discovery Season 1 Discussion (SPOILERS)

    I have to admit, this episode was a lot better than episode two. Definitely Section 31 at work here. There just can't be any other way around it. If that's not the current intention of the writers, they really need to make it so. As a die hard purist, if they throw in the Section 31 element that would be totally okay with me since S31 is in the habit of "making things disappear." In regards of the ship being numbered NCC-1031 for Section 31, I think that's pushing it a little bit. S31 wouldn't be that obvious. In regards to the spores.. IF they are capable of the instant transportation to where ever you want to go, I think this would be a good way to explain how the Iconian Gateways (TNG "Contagion," DS9 "To The Death") work. If that's the case, that would be a nice nod. And I could totally see Captain Lorca becoming obsessed and going crazy. Also, what if the biogenic research they're doing is what CAUSES the Klingons to look like the TOS ones? It is possible that the Augment mutations done in Enterprise could have been reversed by this point, so why not hit them again? Besides, in just 15 years they'd be back to normal (The Motion Picture).
  25. Found this on a reddit post today in r/startrek. It appears that this guy has an original first version of what would eventually become the Voyager theme song, fascinating.
  26. Here's a little interview with Jason ISaacs (Gabriel Lorca) Some interesting tidbits, https://trekmovie.com/2017/10/02/jason-isaacs-explains-lorcas-study-and-whats-up-with-landry-from-star-trek-discovery-ep-3/
  27. I don't personally think he'll will necessarily snap or go off the deep end. However, I do believe he will be controversial in his methods to end the war. My main reason for thinking that is that so far it seems too obvious, so far the show has not been that obvious to me. Also since I watch this on Netflix, it takes me straight to the After Trek show and the show writer answered very plainly to a tweet with a similar theory that the captain will not snap. If that is true or not I don't know, but he's evaded before a lot of plot specific questions so seeing answer so plainly to this one is rather interesting.
  28. Anyone else try out 3D printing?

    We had a 3D printer at my old workplace (School), it was pretty neat. I printed out a Yoda face haha.
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